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October 27, 2014 at 7:09 pm #7960Mr. QuebecParticipant
I’m looking to upgrade from my Windows editing program. I saw a kit for sale :
Adobe Photoshop Elements 10
Logo Design Studio
Paint it
Any comments concerning these programs? Are they worth considering?- This topic was modified 54 years, 9 months ago by .
October 27, 2014 at 7:43 pm #7963Ezra MorleyModeratorCan you give a link to it, or is it in a brick-and-mortar store? How much does this bundle cost?
The only software that I know anything about is Photoshop Elements. Photoshop Elements is up to version 13 now, and is only $90.00 so version 10 is quite outdated.
Logo Design Studio I have never heard of, but you can buy it on Amazon for $30.00. However, I would advise you to take a look at the reviews there on Amazon, most people don’t seem to have a very high opinion of the software.
Paint it seems to be software that will turn your photo into a painting. I assume it is Corel Paint It! available here on Amazon for $40.70 It looks like the reviews are a bit better for it…
I personally would recommend you just go for Photoshop Elements. You can do everything that the other 2 software do with Photoshop, it might just be a bit more involved. More than likely you will find a good deal on it during the Black Friday sales. You can keep an eye on sales on photo-related items here: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/
October 27, 2014 at 7:58 pm #7964Mr. QuebecParticipantIt won’t really help if I give a link, because the website is in French. 🙂 I forgot to mention, it is not sold by a shop, but by someone. It is new, and the box is still sealed with the original price on it. The guy is selling the whole box for $50.
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October 27, 2014 at 8:57 pm #7966Ezra MorleyModerator$50 doesn’t seem to be too bad of a price, but more than likely the other software is older also. Of course older isn’t necessarily a bad thing, and you probably can’t buy that kit for any less than $100 anywhere else.
October 28, 2014 at 6:43 pm #7977Mr. QuebecParticipant$50 is not too bad, but I wonder why they had put cheaper programs with Photoshop since Photoshop can do a better job than these two programs…
Considering that, since I’m interested mostly in Photoshop, I think it will be better to save my money to get a newer version of Photoshop.buddingphotographer, thank you a lot for your quick and valuable answer!
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October 29, 2014 at 11:16 am #7996Ezra MorleyModeratorWell, Photoshop can probably do a better job, if you take the time to learn how to use it. These other “cheaper programs” are probably for people who don’t want to, (or can’t) learn to use Photoshop to do the job.
Do you know that $90.00 for Photoshop is very nearly the price for Lightroom? If I was to give my humble advice, I would say go for Lightroom and substitute the GIMP for Photoshop. Of course, you may have certain reasons for wanting Photoshop, but Lightroom made a much bigger difference in my photographs than GIMP/Photoshop did.
buddingphotographer, thank you a lot for your quick and valuable answer!
You’re very welcome!
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November 7, 2014 at 11:13 am #8212James StaddonKeymasterI enjoy reading discussions like this, and am encouraged to see everyone doing research. It really helps in making decisions, doesn’t it?
First let me say that Photoshop Elements is nothing like “the real” Photoshop. Don’t think that you’ll get even close to the same capabilities.
Secondly, I use “the real” Photoshop for a very small amount of my photo editing. In fact, practically every picture you see on the Lenspiration blog was processed in Lightroom. I simply do not have time to edit in the depth that Photoshop offers. I really only use Photoshop for in-depth design projects that don’t have much to do with photography.
Conclusion? I view Elements as a dubbed down, handicapped version of Lightroom that puts on a Photoshop front so folks will think it’s powerful. I’ve never used it, but from what I have researched and heard of it, I do not recommend it to anyone.
If you’re looking to upgrade, buy Lightroom now while it’s still off the cloud. Yes, you have to pay for new versions when they come out, but only if you want to. You can use an old version as long as you want and then upgrade to the latest version when you have the finances to do so.
That’s my opinion at least!
November 7, 2014 at 11:16 am #8213James StaddonKeymasterAnd oh, by the way, forgot to include this helpful article explaining the differences between Photoshop and Photoshop Elements. It’s pro Elements, but makes a great point for Lightroom:
“If you are just starting out, we always recommend to start with Lightroom or Elements first, before even thinking about Photoshop. If you only have a few hundred images that you need to edit and store, Elements is plenty enough. But if you have thousands of images, Elements cannot stand a chance against the robust photo organizing / cataloging capabilities of Lightroom. So for most people that enjoy taking many pictures and have years of photos to sort through, Lightroom would make a lot of sense over Elements. For those situations, Lightroom should be the first choice. Once you are ready to explore the world of “destructive” advanced editing, give both Elements and Photoshop a try – both can be used as trial software for 30 days, which should be enough time for you to decide what you truly need.”
Read more: http://photographylife.com/photoshop-vs-photoshop-elements#ixzz3IP3UxbC6
November 7, 2014 at 12:26 pm #8214Sarah.BrownParticipantThank you for sharing that article, it had some interesting points.
November 7, 2014 at 6:06 pm #8218Ezra MorleyModerator@JamesStaddon, I must respectfully disagree with you on the Photoshop vs. Photoshop Elements issue.
I have heard numerous times that Photoshop Elements was a viable alternative for “cheap” photographers who didn’t want to spend $600 for Photoshop.
To quote from this article on Adorama:
Photoshop Elements started out as a seriously stripped-down image-editing program for amateurs, but it has been loaded with so many features, it can now do at least 80 percent of what CC can do
I’m guessing that from your background as a professional photographer and designer, you wouldn’t consider Elements as an option. However, most amateur photographers probably don’t need that other 20% of features that Photoshop offers. The article on Adorama highlights some of the main differences. It also gave an interesting link to ElementsXXL which claims to be a plugin to bring back most of the features of Photoshop. I have no idea whether it actually does what it says it does, but since Adorama recommends it, I would think it must be at least somewhat credible. It costs $50.00, which is still a whole lot less than the full version of Photoshop!
Here’s some more reading on Photoshop Elements for photographers: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/168428-photoshop-elements-12-review-a-cheap-better-alternative-for-most-photographers
Of course, I don’t recommend Photoshop at all! I firmly believe that you ought to invest some time in learning to use GIMP and see if you can’t make that work before spending any money on Adobe software. I only wish I had spent more time trying to learn to use open-source software before I “invested” in Lightroom.
November 10, 2014 at 10:24 am #8231James StaddonKeymasterWow, 80%. I’m going to have to re-think my position on Elements. Thanks for giving your input, @buddingphotographer! You’re description of my vantage point is indeed accurate, but it is good for me to know what to recommend to others who are not (and who may never want to be) in my shoes.
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