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    Esther M
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    Hey everyone!
    I would like to make a vertical shot of this photo, but can’t find a pattern I like in the birds. Does anyone have suggestions? This is the original with all the birds included.

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    #49936
    Lydia Bennett
    Participant

    Hi there @esther! Is there a specific reason you’re trying to go for a vertical crop?

    #49979
    Esther M
    Participant

    @bennett-family, actually for Nature Friend Magazine…vertical photos are more useful to them.
    Another thing to keep in mind, these birds fly in flocks, sometimes up to a hundred. So I don’t know if you would still be able to see the concept of a flock of birds. What do you think?

    #49981
    Lydia Bennett
    Participant

    @esther, gotcha! Ok, well a couple things to keep in mind.

    1. Personally, I prefer not to crop my photos a ton since it does affect quality. So, I almost never crop a horizontal photo vertically, or a vertical photo horizontally. It’s just a little bit too big of a crop for me. Now, I believe your camera takes larger pictures than mine in the first place (which gives you greater flexibility), but still it’s something to consider.

    2. On the webinar the other night, Kevin mentioned that if you send them an uncropped photo, it gives them more flexibility for use, so you might want to think about sending them an uncropped version anyways (or in addition to a cropped version).

    3. If you still do want to crop it vertically, the shape that I’m noticing is the “V” shape in the section of the photo I’ve attached here. You might try editing out a bird or two as well to help pull out that shape. With that crop, I’m kind of envisioning it as a cover photo, so the blank space at the top potentially leaves room for the name of the magazine.

    I do have to say, I think it’s really neat how the sunshine is shining on some of the birds. It gives a warm contrast to the cool blue water. Looks like you were out there at a great time of day!

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    Esther M
    Participant

    @bennett-family, thanks for the great ideas!

    Now, I believe your camera takes larger pictures than mine in the first place (which gives you greater flexibility), but still it’s something to consider.

    I knew I couldn’t crop my pictures too much, because the quality goes down, but I always assumed it was my lens. I don’t know…
    I do plan on submitting the uncropped photo to Nature Friend, and maybe have a vertical shot to save them the time editing it.

    With that crop, I’m kind of envisioning it as a cover photo, so the blank space at the top potentially leaves room for the name of the magazine.

    I was kinda hoping for a cover photo, lol! 😉

    So, I played around with the “V shaped pattern”, and came up with a couple that I’ve attached. I’m not quite sure which is best… Now, just to see what it looked like I did the sloppiest job I ever have on spot remover and it looks terrible. 🤨 I’ll go back and redo it later! Haha!

    I do have to say, I think it’s really neat how the sunshine is shining on some of the birds. It gives a warm contrast to the cool blue water. Looks like you were out there at a great time of day!

    I know! It was right before sunset and I just love the color!!

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    #50094
    Lydia Bennett
    Participant


    @esther

    So, I played around with the “V shaped pattern”, and came up with a couple that I’ve attached. I’m not quite sure which is best…

    Oh that’s hard! Before I give any comments, I’d be interested to know if there’s a crop/edit that you like more than the others at this point since it’s been a few days since you did those crops? Sometimes when you let a photo sit for a few days and then come back to it, you have a bit of a fresh perspective!

    If you are able to articulate why you’re liking one edit over the other, that would be nice to hear. If you’re still not sure, that’s fine. 🙂

    #50098
    James Staddon
    Keymaster

    I agree with the V-shape pattern! I just looked for what would be a good “lead” bird, and came up with the attached. I did do a bit of Photoshop to remove a bit of a bird that was cropped off on the right side of the photo. If you wanted to take the time to completely remove the bottom-left most bird, that would be ideal, I think.

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    #50476
    Esther M
    Participant

    So sorry I haven’t gotten back! It’s been kinda busy, despite having “tons of extra time”. 😀 I haven’t edited the photos in Photoshop yet, but I’ll try to explain anyway.


    @bennett-family

    Before I give any comments, I’d be interested to know if there’s a crop/edit that you like more than the others at this point since it’s been a few days since you did those crops?

    The reason I wasn’t sure which photo I liked, was there were pros and cons about all the different edits. As far as picking one of them, I’d say my least favorite is DSC_0659-1.jpg. Since these birds usually don’t fly in a “V” pattern, it seems a little unrealistic…

    I didn’t like the bird on the bottom of three of the photos that isn’t in the sunlight. In the end, it didn’t seem balance without him (example DSC_0659-2.jpg), so I’m going to leave him in there.

    I agree @jamesstaddon, I like the lead bird aspect. I think it’s between DSC_0659-3.jpg and DSC_0659-4.jpg. I like the fourth photo best with the bird in the bottom right corner removed, but the third photo seems more natural. My main thing now is, don’t want it to look unreal, but on the other hand not distracting. Don’t you just wish the birds would fly perfectly right were you want them?! 😂😂

    I hope all this answers your question, Lydia!

    #50729
    Lydia Bennett
    Participant

    @esther Great! Sounds like you’ve thought through your options very well.

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